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Oh and then there's the perpetual refugee issue.

So at some point, the western intellectuals pushing this need to tell the Palestinian intellectual class that yes, you do actually have some agency here and yes, you do have to deal with the terrorist-supporting PA and help fix that and yes, you guys keep making horrible choices for the Palestinians and you need to knock that off. And all I'm seeing is intellectuals telling Israel about everything it's doing wrong/not doing while the Palestinians have zero agency. And that's never going to work, no matter what the world has decided.

There's no reason for Israel to get on board with anything the international community does, not after the only thing it's done is sit on the sidelines and criticize Israel for doing its best to eliminate Hamas. Nobody with any sway in Israel is going to go along with any kind of unilaterally declared Palestinian Authority-run state. Not unless it's completely reformed from top to bottom. If the international community wants that then it's going to need to put boots on the ground, which its various citizenries will never support. This is just intellectuals fantasizing again about how even though nothing they've done over the last 30 years has even remotely worked, it's going to work this time because reasons. Netanyahu's definitely had a role in all this, but he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head and tell them to do October 7, or to commit terrorist attacks, or to insist on a right of return that everybody knows is impossible for Israel to even entertain.

Somehow I don't think the Israeli public is going to go for a state headed by the PA, which called the Safed terrorist attack "heroic", and can't bring itself to stop paying terrorists' families after they kill Jews. Everybody keeps screaming "two state solution!", and absolutely nobody is putting the screws to the PA to start reforming itself. As long as that continues to not happen, people like Thomas Friedman are living in dreamland, because giving the PA a state after OCtober 7 under these conditions really is rewarding Hamas for that day.

She doesn't get to make decisions about who's a Jew, or who's a good Jew and who's a bad Jew, anymore than Donald Trump does.

She doesn't get to make decisions about who's a Jew, or who's a good Jew and who's a bad Jew, anymore than Donald Trump does.

@littlemiao Yeah same.

@ViciousBabushka @dukepaaron @imstilljeremy Oh my God you guys this entire thread I'm laughing so hard I'm crying over here.

@imstilljeremy Do we still get space laser tokens? Because I don't want to lose my access to the space laser it's so cool to light Shabbat candles with it. Also, what about the weather change tokens? Do we get extras of these for being an arm of Mossad? Inquiring minds want to know.

@imstilljeremy Wait we're an arm of Mossad now? Very very cool I can't wait to tell my husband!

Yes absolutely 100%, especially on a distinct resolution. Because this isn't a zero-sum game.

Yes. I don't mean to suggest that just because it's not official policy that rape never happens, nor does anyone else. But the resolution she's voting present on isn't about rape in general, it's about rape as a method of warfare, and honestly if she said yes I'm going to vote yes on this and then use my platform/go to the UN/write my own resolution to call out incidents of rape by IDF soldiers in the territories and how Israel is doing nothing about it, she could totally do that and I'd be 100% behind her on that. But she hasn't once done that, before or after October 7. So either it's not that important to her at all, or at best is's whataboutism on her part.

Also, the Israeli army isn't using rape as a weapon of war against Palestinians. Just sayin' Not that you're saying they are, but that she seems to be trying to say things like this.