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@dukepaaron I'm with Tony. Not all protest, or more specifically, not all activities called protest, are valid.

@TonyStark To put this a bit differently: If the only part getting people arrested had been the trespassing, and there had otherwise been no violence/no intimidation/no taking over people's office/no vandalism, I'd agree with you. That's not how any of this happened.

@TonyStark All of this has gotten way past the point where not arresting them can be an effective tactic. It's also one that's been tried up to this point, with zero change. I probably would have agreed with you entirely about not arresting at the beginning of this, but either people start getting arrested/fired/otherwise experiencing consequences for this shit or it continues to escalate and Jews continue to pay the price.

Also if that civil disobedience involves arrestable offenses, like trespassing, then the civilly disobedient should expect to be arrested. It's kind of part of the game. Otherwise it's not really civil disobedience.

There's nothing inherently antisemitic about protesting for an end to a war. This stuff blew way past the vanilla antiwar line on October 8. It is absolutely antisemitic to tell the Jewish state to stop fighting an enemy that has made it abundantly clear that it will do everything in its power to ensure that state and the Jews living within it no longer exist when the people telling the Jewish state to stop fighting have absolutely zero intent to ensure the genocidal enemy can't achieve its goals except offering more hope as a strategy which is the left-flavored thoughts and prayers. "Totally agree with the bit about the nazi bar problem though. Either fix it or fuck off.

@sickmatter Lol things take a little longer until I get enough caffeine in my system.

That's … really windy and it'll make the temps worse.

Oh yeah I guess it would need to be the actual 20th. So, 20 Tamuz or 20 Iyar depending on the year, or 20 Tevet if you just go with Rosh Hashanah as the beginning of the year. But then, any day is a good day to get high, so …

OK so this is still a bit more complicated because of the leap years which add an extra month. But, normally would be 15 Tamuz since the new year in Shevat is on the 15th and not the 1st. In leap year it would be 15 Iyar.

I'd say Tevet if you only count Rosh Hashanah as beginning the year. If you go with all the halachic new years this gets a little more complicated.