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@svenja @yatil @Marco Yeah VoiceOver has its own way of doing things.

Ug I hope the shoulder injury resolves itself quickly.

@sarajw @yatil @Marco I use Windows and switch between NVDA and Jaws for Windows. I owned a Mack at one point and found that there was a ton of stuff that was really clunky with VoiceOver. Also I need a working terminal.

@svenja @yatil @Marco Na you're not a fandroid, you're not all over everybody's mentions going "Well actually you should use Android Apple bad Oh and by the way here's the 3,000 hacks you need to do out of the box to get a basic setup working as a blind person but really it's no big deal."

@svenja @yatil @Marco And before any Fandroids show up in this thread, neither I nor my husband have time to mess around with devices to get them working. We need them to just work and we don't want to spend time having to hack on devices we depend on. 🙂

@svenja @yatil @Marco Yeah definitely get needing a working screen reader. That's where we are and a huge reason why we use Apple stuff.

@blindndangerous @BorrisInABox @Jage Depends on the language. Some are worse than others.

@blindndangerous @BorrisInABox @Jage Wow.

@svenja @yatil @Marco Honestly I think the mechanical watch stuff is fascinating.

@yatil @svenja @Marco Like I said there's no right or wrong way to do this. Not showering with the watch is cool too and sometimes I'll do that if I want some time away from the phone or something like that.

@sarajw @svenja @Marco Does the 9 count as a new model that's dive certified? Or is that just the 10 and above.