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@svenja @yatil @Marco And before any Fandroids show up in this thread, neither I nor my husband have time to mess around with devices to get them working. We need them to just work and we don't want to spend time having to hack on devices we depend on. 🙂

@svenja @yatil @Marco Yeah definitely get needing a working screen reader. That's where we are and a huge reason why we use Apple stuff.

@blindndangerous @BorrisInABox @Jage Depends on the language. Some are worse than others.

@blindndangerous @BorrisInABox @Jage Wow.

@svenja @yatil @Marco Honestly I think the mechanical watch stuff is fascinating.

@yatil @svenja @Marco Like I said there's no right or wrong way to do this. Not showering with the watch is cool too and sometimes I'll do that if I want some time away from the phone or something like that.

@sarajw @svenja @Marco Does the 9 count as a new model that's dive certified? Or is that just the 10 and above.

@blindndangerous @BorrisInABox @Jage Basically yes. Except where people usually realize you use Google Translate when you need a rough idea of something but it's not reliable, with AI coding they go "Yay let's use this in the work codebase!" which is a bad idea.

@yatil @svenja @Marco Wow thanks for all this info!

@BorrisInABox @Jage Actually the code use case for these models is one of the worst use cases, because the result is code the user doesn't understand and which is often problematic from a security standpoint. It's copypasta on steroids which is causing actual problems for things like FLOSS projects.

@Marco I don't think there's a right or wrong way to do this. I went a couple years without the watch, and then started. As long as you turn on water lock, and then turn it off again when you're done, you're good.

This is probably the most practical way for Apple or anyone else to grapple with the problems involved with this specific use of generative models, and also, cue the contrarians complaining that Apple is violating their free speech rights and/or being too woke or whatever because you know it's coming.