Toot by rameshguptarameshgupta (mastodon.social)

@tobie1 Israel should not be asked to accept a Palestinian state immediately after October 7, and definitely not without conditions being met on the Palestinian side. Israel already tried this, up to and including complete disengagement from Gaza, and it got October 7 for its trouble. It's still trying to rid itself of Hamas, which Joe Biden is trying to prevent for some reason, otherwise he wouldn't have thrown such a fit about Rafah. And if he wants to solve the Middle East, he can quit trying to appease Iran and tell the PA to knock it off with the pay-for-slay crap and to knock off the incitement of their society's kids to violence or they lose all funding for a start. Instead he wants to put all his considerable pressure on Israel and none on Hamas or any of the other non-Israel entities involved.

Toot by rameshguptarameshgupta (mastodon.social)

@tobie1 Along with Biden winning the election, I also want Hamas decisively crushed and think Biden should quit trying to save them, to say nothing of attempting to shove a Palestinian state down Israel's throat because he wants to solve the Middle East. And he's absolutely capable of being crude, so no I'm not buying the "He's better than Netanyahu" bit. I get that you hate Netanyahu because it's the only lens you seem able to view any of this through. So after this I'm done with this particular thread.

Toot by rameshguptarameshgupta (mastodon.social)

@tobie1 Until he decided to publicly and openly fude with him over Rafah because he wants to win an election. He's been sending at best mixed messages since December all because he wants to appease the antisemitic block of his party and because he, like Obama, wants to show Netanyahu who's boss as if he's some sort of client king or something. And if I were Netanyahu I'd bristle at that too. And all he's managed to do in the process is ensure that Netanyahu retains his spot. If he'd have left things alone, the war would likely be over, Netanyahu would be out of power, and his corruption trial would be ongoing and he might even be in jail. Instead we're treated to Joe Biden trying to win a dick-swinging contest

Toot by rameshguptarameshgupta (mastodon.social)

@tobie1 He clarified again yesterday that he has no intention of resettling Gaza. And honestly if I were him I'd be flipping some birds too. The international community, including sometimes Biden, has been absolutely horrible about all this, in multiple ways, including the completely over-the-top Netanyahu hate-on. The latest bit of grandstanding from Ireland ETC. just makes all of it more absurd.

Toot by tobie tobie (mastodon.social)

@rameshgupta Up until October 7 and its aftermath, I fully supported an immediate Palestinian state. After that point, I completely understand Israeli opposition to one, at least until Palestinian politics decides they're going to quit pursuing the idea of wiping Israel off the map by any means necessary and to pursue a state instead. And as much as I dislike Netanyahu I completely understand his total opposition to the international community's attempt to shove a Palestinian state down Israel's throat immediately after October 7. It's not like the PA has gone out of its way to distance itself from that attack. It can't even manage to wholeheartedly condemn it.

Toot by 8124 8124 (babka.social)

@rameshgupta @Properganda I don't know. I mean he could surprise me I guess, but then he has to get through the rest of the time without stepping on anymore rakes, and I just don't see that happening. I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect that a lot of people are going to be in for a 2016-style shock come November, except this time will be way worse because Trump is nothing but openly petty and vindictive these days.