Toot by Lynn I 馃椊Lynn I 馃椊 (social.vivaldi.net)

@nycki96 @gocu54 Also, and especially since you think Israel went too far in Iran even though it has only targeted military targets and the assets needed for its neuclear weapons program, do you expect people to just allow themselves to be killed in order to avoid killing or is there any situation where your peace plan for humanity would permit anyone to kill? or is it unicorns and rainbows all the way down?

Toot by Lynn I 馃椊Lynn I 馃椊 (social.vivaldi.net)

@nycki96 @gocu54 I never said Israel has some sort of right to divinely kill, as you put it. It has a duty to defend its citizens, and to do whatever it takes to ensure that things like October 7 never happen again. It does not have an obligation to continue to tolerate its neighbors lobbing missiles at it or committing terrorist attacks inside it or abducting its citizens, not even for the sake of your vaunted peace. There's being a peaceful person, and then there's being at best naive and at worst expecting Israel to operate by a standard you do not expect any other nation to operate by. If you want less violence, then maybe you should sue for Israel's neighbors to attack less, and in the case of Gaza since you keep trying to tie everything back to it, for Hamas to surrender and hand back all the hostages

Toot by Lynn I 馃椊Lynn I 馃椊 (social.vivaldi.net)

@nycki96 @gocu54 I never said Israel has some sort of right to divinely kill, as you put it. It has a duty to defend its citizens, and to do whatever it takes to ensure that things like October 7 never happen again. It does not have an obligation to continue to tolerate its neighbors lobbing missiles at it or committing terrorist attacks inside it or abducting its citizens, not even for the sake of your vaunted peace. There's being a peaceful person, and then there's being at best naive and at worst expecting Israel to operate by a standard you do not expect any other nation to operate by. If you want less violence, then maybe you should sue for Israel's neighbors to attack less, and in the case of Gaza since you keep trying to tie everything back to it, for Hamas to surrender and hand back all the hostages

Toot by Nicki Nicki (caneandable.social)

@lynnskyi @gocu54 Everything Nicky said, except not just last week and not just one person. So I'm sorry people you don't like are solving a problem you can't bring yourself to acknowledge in a way you don't like, but Team Diplomacy has had 30 years to fix this and has abjectly failed, and you are not entitled to more failing forward on the part of said team while people other than you continue to pay the price for it. And, racing to the defense of a regime that hangs LGBTQ people from cranes just for being who they are and forcibly detransitions trans people, during Pride Month no less, all because you hate Trump and really can't be bothered to give a crap about any Israeli until you're called on it is one hell of a bad look. And no, all-lives-mattering this doesn't cut it.

Toot by Lynn I 馃椊Lynn I 馃椊 (social.vivaldi.net)

@gocu54 All of that was tried already. It didn't work. And if people like you had been half as outraged about Iran's conduct against the people of the Middle East as you are about Iran finally being dealt with instead of just continuing to kick the can down the road, we might be in a different place. But we're not. I have no idea how you got yourself to the place where you're coming to the defense of one of the worst regimes on this planet.

Toot by Lynn I 馃椊Lynn I 馃椊 (social.vivaldi.net)

@gocu54 So you think they should have just been allowed to build a nuclear bomb, which they would have then launched at Israel? You think they should just get a time-out or something? Because that's totally worked over the last 40 years. And we all know what would have happened had they launched a nuke. The same thing's that's happened as they've launched missiles at civilions. Crickets.