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Why? Why do they have to ruin everything! Why can't we just have a simple cane that someone hasn't tried to screw up because they think it will help us (TM)?

Yay!

@ViciousBabushka Yes please Fox News keep threatening someone who is infinitely richer than you. By all means. I'm going to go pop some popcorn.

@technolass Also, Disable Gutenberg/Classic Editor essentially use the same function to do the disabling. The classic editor is still in WordPress for various reasons, it's just that these plugins provide an easy way for users to do the disabling without needing to write code.

@technolass So they all work, that's not the issue. The issue is that the community as a whole is going toward an options not decisions model instead of the traditional decisions not options model, which has implications for themes and plugins. Specifically for themes, it means that designers are assuming that users now have the capability to enact whatever design decisions they choose, so designers aren't making decisions about topography ETC. So you can use Classic Editor/Disable Gutenberg with these themes, but you end up in a situation where you need to hire someone to do all theme customizations for you with regard to topography and such. Alternatively, you can tell your clients that they have to use a 6/7 year old theme and they're stuck with whatever design decisions and all the other problems Gutenberg is attempting to solve from the Classic Editor era. The latter is not an option for this organization.

Yes I'm talking about the techno group.

@technolass I can't do it this week, but yeah we can totally get together with some drinks and I'll walk you through some stuff.

@technolass Na I got it. Thanks though.

Yeah I'm going to try.

@KaraLG84 Yeah I think the markdown block is reasonably useful, although I prefer original markdown and not WordPress's flavor of markdown which accommodates the wp_autop function, which I loathe.

Also, the thing with using classic stuff is that you really don't want to use a theme past the Twentyseventeen theme, but definitely not past the Twentytwenty-one theme. This is because these themes become more and more dependent on the block and site editors, up to the point where they don't have much design out-of-box because they assume you're going to use block patterns and such to design your site. So if I were to use the latest default theme with classic stuff things would be incredibly bare on this site without an easy way for the site owner to change it.

No but I think you can still use the classic editor/classic widgets. Well you can install plugins if you have one of the higher tiers but I don't think you need that.

You can use the Classic Editor still, it just requires a plugin. Well technically you want two, Classic Editor and Classic Widgets. It's just that this organization doesn't have the resources/know-houw to do things with the classic editor so I'm trying to get them to a point where they can stand up on their own because not much budget and I am not looking for another volunteer thing I've gotten rid of most of those for a reason. Note: startup is for all intents and purposes a volunteer thing in my book. I cannot eat equity.

@technolass Do you want the basic block editor guide?

The WordPress with a Screen Reader resources are free but we accept donations, and there is a basic block editor shortcut guide in that series. We haven't done the site editor portion yet, we wanted to wait to see if it would stabilize a bit, which it seems to have done.

Yes. Yes they are.

No, it's just that this org does not have the resources to do classic editor properly, and the person in charge really loves their drag 'n drop, so I'm trying to save grief down the line by not creating a situation where classic editor was used first so the work has to then be converted over to the block editor.

Come join us on Babka.

@GottaLaff Yes. Yes they are.

Oh my God this is hilarious.