@FreakyFwoof Yes it's essentially a definitions thing, and yes it's mildly impressive, until you consider that this is going to happen more and not less often because infosec by best practice is too cost ineffective for the move-fast-and-break-things crowd and besides that who cares about all the peons having to spend all their time manually patching they don't matter. Sorry the whole thing makes me ranty.
@acarson @FreakyFwoof Agree with this. I think they have too many privilages over all. But they have a good argument for needing them which is a malicious app will turn them off otherwise. But it the model sort of relies on the techno-wizardry of the cyber security people to be next-level at all times, which is clearly not realistic.