@serge To add to what Serge is saying in this conversation, I think the part of all this that cuts so deep is that the fediverse has consistently held itself out as essentially holier than big social and even the rest of the internet when it comes to various bigotries. And then October 7 happened and it proceeds to, after watching all the bad things everyone else did with regard to antisemitism, go "Hold my coffee" and prove that in the end it's not only no better but often far worse than everything else it criticizes.