@dukepaaron @ViciousBabushka And how do you think Israel is going to view "Hey Israel we gave the Palestinians a state that they're unable to govern so we need you to do things like manage water and electricity and all the things you do now except let's all make them feel better by calling this a state when actually it's not a state because no military and no elections". That's just absurd, and hope is not a strategy, and proponents of the two-state solution need to get serious about things like Palestinian agency and reforms on that side instead of just yelling at Israel. Which is all that manages to happen.