@acarson not much warmer than us here. it is 19 here with a windchill of 9, and we are only suppose to get to I believe 27 today, then back down to between 15 and 20 for a low tonight. we warm up tomorrow at 36, and then rain for the later part of the week threw the beginning of next week. all I can say is yuck, yuck, yuck, and fucking yuck, and with my arthritus, can I say tripple yuck?