@jscholes @FreakyFwoof @MoonCat an issue. But lack of awareness shouldn't be thrown out as some sort of "well they weren't aware so they can't be ableist" or pick something. Because too often people just go "Oh he's not aware" like that's supposed to make it all OK and frankly it doesn't.
Justin Macleod (mastodon.social)
@arush @jscholes @FreakyFwoof @MoonCat I guess, to me, abelism requires intension. A deliberate prejudice. A deliberate denigration. If someone doesn’t think I can do something because they believe it requires sight and don’t know better, can’t conceive of the mechanisms by which it is possible, I wouldn’t slap an abelist label on them and I’m not sure it’s helpful to do so.
@arush @jscholes @FreakyFwoof @MoonCat If I say, of course she can’t do that. She’s a woman. Or of course Jews are like x or y, that is equal parts stupid and discriminating. I have based my dismissal of them on an arbitrary criterion with no basis in logic. However, to say x requires sight, this person has no sight, therefore this person cannot do x isn’t, IMO, biggeted or abelist.
@arush @jscholes @FreakyFwoof @MoonCat It’s logical if you don’t have all the premises to reach the correct conclusion. It’s like the argument about all swans being white, therefore you’re not a swan if you’re not white, when the person making the argument isn’t aware of the existence of black swans. I just think there’s a difference between discrimination and being mistaken.
@amanda 100% this Amanda.